Giant steps is a podcast about running and how creative people engage with the sport.

It is hosted by saunder jurriaans. he is a musician and film composer. and a runner.

editing and sound design is by Matthew Hannam. he is a film editor. and he’s trying to be a runner.

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Saunder Jurriaans - host

Saunder Jurriaans is a multi-instrumentalist musician, composer and songwriter. He has scored over 100 films and TV shows with his partner Danny Bensi, their score for Netflix’s Ozark was nominated for an Emmy this year. Recently he has released his first solo record entitled “Beasts” on Decca Records. Currently Jurriaans lives and works in Los Angeles, CA.


Saunder has been running for a number of years but began to take it more seriously in 2018 when he ran his first half marathon. A year later he ran the New York marathon and then the LA marathon. Over the years Saunder became more and more aware of the mental health benefits of running, particularly how it complimented the creative process of making music and dispelled depression and anxiety. Giant Steps is a further exploration into this aspect of running. 

check Saunder’s Instagram here

AND HIS WEBSITE HERE